First red flag is there is only an e-mail to contact the seller. * Wiki article on Golfdiscounting.com In this case it looks like Edin Watts, Golfsmith and TGW are all legit. Anyone had any dealings with garagesalegolf on ebay? Im pretty suspicious of them, would appreciate any feedback. Can easily tell when the grooves have dirt/grass in them and need to be cleaned. If I try to trace route their url I get stopped at secureserver.net which appears to be a proxy network to hide their real location. However, we will do our best to include as many Team . of course they are phony$399 for 2012 Mizuno MP59? Sorry, i feel overseas quality control is crap. Hi Guys please be aware of this site http://www.wholesalegolfmart.com Back on May 17th I asked Goldspy a question about this company and they were good enough to respond, so I thought I would write a follow up from a real customer with a real world experience. They are fakes indeed!!! On the rear page I see Ping G15 irons, Burner Superfast Driver/Fairway Woods/Irons at prices lower than normal prices. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. FAKE CLUB TEST #1 - Callaway X460 Driver One of these is one of Callaway's superb long-hitting X460 driver manufactured from pure titanium. I sent the seller another email letting him know that I have discovered that his clubs are counterfeit and giving him 48 hours to credit my PayPal account. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! And the whois info follows The RBG domain was created 2001. must be counterfiets? These tips will help a lot of people out who didnt know to look for these things. I now own 2 TaylorMade R9 farway woods for $68.50 that are almost identical to the authenic clubs, but I am still trying to shut the seller down. I checked out on that website and not see where it come from. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. i was playing in my thursday league,hitting my driver like crap,so i asked one guy in my group if i could try his.i give it a wack, 250-270.straight.again same result.5times anyway its a nike 460 sq. My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). i did the same but they gave me a part refund as i ordered 2 x sets of irons. They have arrived promptly and well packaged but my husband is wondering if they are genuine. Most stickers on authentic clubs are placed on the underside of the shaft up by the grip or down next to the ferrule. To close the loop on this, I emailed Miura with the links and research. Pictures of each individual face as well. Callaway definitely does not, as they have a prominent list of their authorized Internet dealers on their web site. DONT BUT FROM Our Discount Golf.. CObra S2 irons, brand new with the wrap on it, i ask for picture, and he was not able to provide them but he told me that the club where a late season return from Acushnet. Hope someone can give me some feedback. I note they did not say from the golf club manufacturers but instead oversea supplire. In 2006, RockBottomGolf.com saw record sales and launched their multi-channel online strategy across Shopping.com, Google, Amazon.com, Yahoo!, Overstock.com, BizRate, PriceGrabber.com and many others. Needs reporting. would like to know if wallys discount golf sells authentic or fake clubs, As much as i am delighted that i know a bit more about fake clubs out there.. it sure is scary. Tech Phone: +86.85283408916 tel: Bill Phone: +86.05946277277 They have some great shots of the back and front of the clubs, it is a good opportunity to see on of the prevalent fakes. Some of the fakes are awfully good, but I think the surest way to tell is the large amount of camber found on the fakes. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 Is rock bottom golf a good site for cheap golf clubs. Material used will be a different texture and firmness. So I guess that the ProV 1s that Suno Golf offers and claims are 2008s and 2009s to justify the huge price discount, are fakes?? Hope every customer will be happy with our wholesale golf clubs and service. Daisy 00:12:29 The clubs arrived yesterday and are fake, very poor fakes at that. I dont have any experience with them personally but I wouldnt be afraid to try. No phone number so I emailed asking if their products are authentic. Upload or insert images from URL. All very genuine, especially the can openers. Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them, Hi golf spy, Hit em straight! Of course living in Fairhaven I told them I needed to go over to the company headquarters and speak w/ someone about the legit.. of the club. Expires on..: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 I love the feel of them over any Mizuno, which to me are still 'buttery' sweet, but OTOH Miuras have a solid feel that is lacking in Mizunos. Their price on a R1 is about $75.00 lower than the best price on Ebay. Register.Com Clear editor. This disclaimer constitutes an essential part of this agreement.. To the full extent permissible by applicable law, Golfskydiscount,Inc. How do i know that a number given to me on a G15 is ok not fake, has anyone heard anyhing bad about http://www.perfectoutdoorgame.com am about to order some clubs from them. Loved this read. Shenzhen perhaps? Just wanting to make sure. This guy pays for a business license to sell products wholesale. xielunyong I can tell you from personal experience that Golfetail/Rockbottomgolf/Globalgolf are 100 reputable and sell only genuine articles. Thanks! So that means if they sell cheaper, they are not allowed to show the price until you put the item in your shopping cart. ID theft SUCKS!! My 2nd Swing stuff looks awesome. : In this case theyve ripped off the RapidSSL logo and stuck it on their website. Hey i just bought a set a Vega irons off ebay for $700, just wondering if thats sounds to good, i think retail is like 1200. Golf Spy, I just ran across this website yesterday and was wondering if you were familiar with them and if they are Legit as far as Authenyic Clubs? Are there any options for me to get my money back? I believe these brands have prices that retailers are not supposed to reduce. Is ksouth9 a legit website, for selling quality golf clubs! fax: Administrative Contact Information : The shape of the head will be off. But a DNS search shows a Hong Kong manufacturing company unaffiliated with Taylormade. Golfetail is in the US and also has a website where it shows their toll free number, picture of their staff and more confidence building information. I have a fake club sitting right here next to the computer desk that i bought a month ago. My friend bring this club to the Golfsmith for trade in. I wonder if they just suck? Font used will be slightly different or maybe a slightly different size. Katsuhiro Miura strives to make the perfect golf club and has produced over 10 series which include putters, irons, and wedges. We had originals in the shop to compare to, and they are identical. They seem very legit and should be added to that list in my opinion. I recently ordered supposed Taylormade R11 Fairway Woods from OURDISCOUNTGOLF.COM. Glad to hear. I had my wakeup call and I am going out today to GOLFTOWN to look on the spot for some resonable clubs. Nick, registered in the building. Anyone who buys clubs from eBay really deserves it everyone knows that were everything counterfeit is sold. Is this a real website because the prices are really low. The log0 and branding on the authentic cover is much cleaner. Just wanted to followup on my own posting on Feb. 13th 12:47 am post, re: timetoshopping.com. And golf has now been engulfed by the issue. Have you read the about us citation? I dont think you have to worry. when recieved, there was no serial # on the hosel or ferrelwhat do you think? Thanks again for the great customer service! since then i have shown my local pro, taken them to a very large golf retailer + seen the local Callaway rep that comes out for demo days ALL of them believe they are REAL they looked, matched them against others etc etc & have had a hit of them. Its selling really low price gear. R11 driver is currently 399.99 brand new, anything less is illegal. Sorry error in last comment, if the magnet does not stick not stick. Another tip is check out their security certificate logo at the bottom of the page. I have learned my lesson about buying cheap clubs. Are they legit? Hi, thank heaven I have found this site, I am looking to buy some Ping G20 irons from supergolfstore.co.uk I am a little bit worried that the cost of 240 seems too good. Join the Titleist Golf Ball Testing Team. due to parenthood. They are made in China but are assembled in the United States. North Chili, NY 14514. I am little confuse. I agree that the internet is loaded with counterfeits, but disagree that the size of the problem is around 14%. Admin Phone Ext. There is a dealer on eBay that has great feedback. The Miura MC-501 irons are not pure blades, the MC stands for a muscle cavity. We offer the latest Miura iron sets and wedges online and in-store. Admin Phone Ext. MATERIAL Premium (S20C) Soft Carbon Steel FINISH Satin Chrome SPECIFICATIONS I googled them and could find nothing negative, even a few positives. Just wanted ur opinion if these are safe or stay away from them. AboutUs: Wiki article on Brandgolfclubs.com Most of the time the font lettering will be thinner on the counterfeit. Im not sure what all that means but I have sent them an email with a demanded response within 24 hours. They have a currency converter in the lower right corner why??? No one in the building has heard of such company.Be ware! the comments say that most often they wont fake left handed clubs, which makes sense, considering the market for it, but how confident should I be? New York, NY 10018 our price is reasonable enough All, I just see that 2nd Swing has put up a set of obviously fake Miura MC-501s on their website. Notice on the Scotty Cameron pictures below that the milling on the face is much different. I bought some Ping G25s and while the shafts (TFC 360 graphite) and grips looked ok, the heads had a plastic covered piece of grey foam where the CTP should be (Tungsten insert). Bill Name: Brandgolfclubs Thanks Hack454, I did some exploring on my own and found a forum with nothing but bad things about that company. My last shot here is that if the OEMs were serious about fighting this problem, they would offer COMPETITIVE prices on used equipment that have been condition rated correctly. Just my 2 cents for not getting screwed on eBay. If you can only afford $500 (and IMHO thats all most average golfers should spend) find yourself a nice clone maker who will back their product with a warranty and you will not have to worry if your getting ripped off. What a surprise, the logo isnt linked. Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By Clubs had an easy weight in the swing. or does anyone know of a inexpensive decent set and or single clubs? An idea, as this list is getting longer and at times repeatative, could a short list be generated some where to list the web pages mentioned? OK so a follow up on Diamond Tour Golf which makes Clones NOT imitations or fakes. It seems way to cheap to be real. Thanks in advance! Tech City: Xiamen But we have only been in contact with a couple sources. very very good to deal with. Why do these companies ship work and resources out of our domestic economy? i would like to know any thing about a site i think they are fake? It is possible that they could be a counterfeit product.. From everything I can see they look like the real deal? Feel ease to buy from Empire Golf. Should I consider these to be legit? Miura 2019 Cb-301 Iron Set NEW 7 CLUBS $1,960.00 USED $1,499.99 Miura Tc-201 Single Iron NEW $299.99 Miura Pi-401 Single Iron NEW $329.99 Miura Pi-401 Iron Set NEW 7 CLUBS $2,310.00 Miura Ic-601 Iron Set NEW 7 CLUBS $1,960.00 Miura 2019 Cb-301 Single Iron NEW $279.99 Miura Mb-101 Iron Set NEW 7 CLUBS $1,960.00 Miura LH CB-801 $256.19 WAS $309.99 I do a lot of research on the net when I by Quality products, fast and stellar service is what makes RockBottomGolf.com what it is today, one of the largest Internet golf sites in the world specializing in closeout golf merchandise. And why is it unbeatable? does anyone have any information about this site? They must have sold every set of clubs in the world. Not titanium either like it is suppose to be. im planning on checking for a serial number and calling callaway to see if the number matches the set. Other manufactures may have a list on their site. i think its fake because of the price for one, also because of an imperfection on the hozel of the club. The clubs are totally unplayable!!! Degenerates. sorry, web site is called actioncustomgolfclubs. You guys sure Hurricanegolf.com is legit? Are the clubs fake? To reply to your enquiry directly stay away from the company. So do contact the brand you are looking for and ask for your nearest outlet then there genuine there no such thing as an OEM i have been told. None of their clubs are made here. about to buy a set of r9 irons reg steel for 539.00. hope they are real. Remember, If is smells like a turd and looks like a turd, then it probably is a turd so you had better not eat it. Website set up in Oct 2011 and prices appear to be too good to be true. I posted this in another thread here and a mizuno rep stated these arent fakes. I was wondering if my golf wholesale is a legit site and if anybody has bought any clubs from this site? The Miura TC-201 is a "Tour Cavity" model sitting somewhere between a true muscle-back and full-fledged cavity-back iron. Registrant Search: wl sale owns about 2 other domains The safest way I see it would be to spend a few bucks more and get the $1300 clubs instead of paying $250 and having them be counterfeit. thank , you answer my question, i wont recommend your store to anybody, SEE THEIR ANSWER FOR THE 20:22:43 question, 7seconds to write all off this, sound like they have a prepare response for accusation. i just purchased an order of ap2 irons from bestsalegolf.com, i was just curious if anyone has information on this website as to if there clubs are real or fake, if you could let me know it would be greatly appreciated! And nowthe US produces next to nothing and the reason is cost and efficiency. They let me know that they were definitely counterfeit. One thing Ive noticed while trawling different sites is that some of the ones with the To Good To Be True offers seem to have very similar web page designs to other ify sites, or when you click on a product you are redirected to another web site.So these may well be other indications of dodgy sites. Has anyone used this site they say they ship from usa but still not sure if the clubs are fake. Registrant Street2: I am a lefty, which makes me feel more confident as it is my understanding that counterfeiters dont make left handed clubs because lefties make up such a small segment of the market. Louisville Golf is one of the rare companies remaining that still produces persimmon drivers and fairway woods. Ali Baa has numerous Miura wedges and iron sets at cheapo prices, really cheap. 4-PW composition. They look similar to the set I posted here. True Spec Golf's DJ Lantz and GOLF.com's Andrew Tursky test the carry, feel, and forgiveness of Miura's new PI-401 irons against their current gamers.Subscri. However, cobra told me golfetail was legit and not to worry about any counterfeit products. but, then again, what do i know. I think those are the guys that are also selling fake Miura irons too. Visit http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/nike-golf-2012-machspeed-x-irons.html# to have a look for your self. Featuring a new design that works to combine the balance of cavity back and muscle back irons, the TC-201s still require a golfer with some skill to get them working . I spent time in the shop and analyzed which options were best for me The time alone with the pro was worth more than any cost savings or risk online. Thank you for the post. Sheesh! Today I refused the pkg and I will refute any charges he may apply. I bought a set of Pings from TGW a few weeks ago in thier clearance section at a very nice price. It looks fake as the print on the hosel and the shaft is not as sharp as those I have seen. We are starting to see more fake JDM golf clubs on the market. My relatives every time say that I am wasting my time here at net, I did business with 3balls and i recommend it. They advertised the clubs as used but the only club that showed any mark was the 7 iron. scratching), but I really dont care about appearance I want function! Ill just use that fanciful term that all clubs are OEMs, that clubs come straight from the factory (but whose factory were not saying), that we carry every brand in the world, even those you have never heard of. Absolutely no problem using them. If you read through this thread you will find several comments that Rockbottomgolf is legit. Has anyone ever done business with bobsbettergolf on ebay? So I am not 100% sure. and we will refund you I am wondering if buying clubs off of amazon.com is a possibility or if it would run in to the same problems as ebay? Last Updated on: 08-Jun-09, Administrative Contact: Your link has been automatically embedded. Also, the site didnt have a phone number to contact and the grammar was suspect All of our staffs here are ready to be your service agent. The numerical font. please help. Just my opinion. Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! Thanks for the reply Schmidty. I searched on the internet and found Callaway Razr Fit driver for $199. The authentic club is on bottom and has the serial etched into the metal which you can feel if you run your finger across it. (note: an obvious sign of fake R9 clubs from China is when they do not offer KBS shafts which are standard run a mile when they say no KBS!). the site is called perfect outdoor game. Rather than feeling really insecure and iffy about a purchase online. Does anyone know of a site called ksouth9 based out of southeast USA. Notice they say the same quality as the origials (originals)because they are not original!!! I had the same concern. http://www.gtbshoping.com and http://www.gtbshopping.com I just purchased a taylormade r11 driver and taylormade burner 2.0 irons. Milling marks are much more pronounced on the counterfeit. I am thinking of placing an order for a Ping K15 on luckygolf18.com, the price seems too good to be true. 5 Testers Needed! any information would be greatly appreciated. Not so easy when the real deal is being shipped in from all over the world, as it currently is. Jeez, read the section for About Us, To purchase cheap golf clubs from onlineeconomygolf.com is your best choice. has anyone ever purchased anything off http://www.taylormadebrand.com ? I also read somethings about a magnet test, where if the magnet doesnt stick to the club face of a driver its real, but if it falls off, its fake. fuzhou fujian 350000 The fact they say they will send as gift to avoid the import tax alarms me as this is clearly against the law. Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. It therefore must get them through unauthorised channels. http://www.greatgolfdeals.com/ Thumbnail Three to four hundred dollars cheaper. I say this because Ive bought from other eBay shops that simply toss the club in the box with no padding and ship it off (and they wonder why they get complaints about damaged clubs). Rob, http://www.salegolfcentre.com etc.This being said, he has own the club for months without noticing the difference. Tech Phone Ext. That could be why they dont have serial numbers. Thanks for any info. Iron sets will have the serial number on either the 5 iron (for older models) or the 7 iron (on newer models). Cheers, Chris, When he got a package and realized that address from China. Golf Stix, Inc. The heads on the TaylorMade r7 460 drivers are uncannily similar even the fonts are pretty close although the shade of orange on the crescent isnt quite right. One company gave them an 81 percent safe rating. BEWARE OF WWW>PERFECTOUTDOORGAME.COM, Great site!! Just came across a site http://www.wholesalegolfclubs.co.uk itaintpretty has about 15,000 feedback w/ 99% positive feedback. Look out TPC Louisiana!! I took a chance for the one on ebay. I have not done business with any of the above, nor do I recommend any of them. He played with that club for a year, then he didnt like it. I wouldn't worry about your Retros, the pic of one looks legit to me. I purchased (or thought I did) a Bang Storm driver from a company called golf discount center supposedly from San Mateo CA in late August 2010 and have yet to receive my order two months later. the particular irons i looked at (Nike Golf- 2012 Machspeed X Irons 4-PW/AW Steel) were very poor quality clubs. And this was all brought about due to fixed pricing by the manufacturer. Driver PRGR Super Egg, Honma 717 3 wood, Titleist 915 19*, Itobori iron set and wedge set, Itobori putter. Please be careful and dont be cheated at http://www.wholesaleclubsgolf.com. The rest of the set was brand new/never hit. I thank all of the people who have provided very important information here. Sunny13:21:25 If they are counterfeit they usually will not like answering these. Golf Stix, Inc. The only thing that sticks out here is the site has only been up since July of 09 and the registered owner has 119 other sites listed under his email address. lol Dont sacrifice common sense in lieu of what you WANT to hear. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! My friend who work for the Golfsmith and he is very tired of see people bring fake club to trade in with other clubs. These were counterfeit Mizuno irons. Dont any of you idiots have any small grain of common sense??? I buy gift cards from Golfsmith & Golf Galaxy. I read too many messages on this site and everyone need to be careful! I have never heard the clanky sound it made from an authentic Taylormade product. I just checked with Callaway, and they have a list of counterfiet sites. The driver is definitely titanium. Do you think any would notice that the clubs might not be 100 percent genuine? No phone #. Wow, Ive been looking for a site like yours for ages. If you want the real deal, go to your local pro shop or directly to the company that makes it. except I know I am getting knowledge every day by reading thes good posts. Counterfeit Scotty Cameron. When I received them, they looked beautiful, in fact, the clubs say made in China assembled in USA. Have you ever noticed the exception wording on any of the sales you see from any of the big retailers. Postal Code : 606550. prices were good on a Nike Sq. What a close call and what a great ending! It's fun to scoff at and make fun of but people are getting ripped off. Seriously, Vic, use your brain. on my 7 iron and the serial number was for a completely diffferent set of irons. Daisy 00:18:10 instead of 70 gms. I have a few sets of genuine, which are just sandblasted in the notch. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 4 years. When I decided to start playing again after a lenghtly absence I purchased a set of Callaway clones from T&D Golf in Oldsmar, FL and was extremely pleased with their performance so I cant knock them. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 Many thanks. A: Yes, you will get a confirmation email once payment confirmed or package shipped. Display as a link instead, Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex GripMaster Club Maker's Stitchback Grips 34" Piretti Bosa, GripMaster Pistol Grip Registered Bladeocrat Outlaw Golf Association Member #7 chriswsurprenant Advanced Members 81 Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Upon review, some of the warning flags mentioned here are present questionable grammer, no phone number or physical address, no customer reviews. but stay away from suno golfeven their tee will be fake one ( youl pay for tee, you will receive toothpick hhihihi. An example: http://thegolfclubreviews.com/. They also have x 22s for 399.00. http://www.onlinegolf.co.uk/. The website was not a secured site and B of A has had to give him a new account number. About the the 13th hole, my hands started to sweat profusely (I usually play without a glove) and I began to have a hard time holding onto the club I had to put on a glove to finish the round. I would be interested to hear your experience with them as well as any other people that have bought from garagesalegolf. FAKE CLUB TEST #2 TaylorMade r7 460 Driver. I hope you didnt get ripped off because I just ordered a set of irons myself! I know because we have these guys in my league. Yup, fake written all over if you look close enough, but the ball still goes straight and it is good for a second bag, or to practice .. in the garage. But dont buy a fake Calloway just to pose. Thank you for contacting Mizuno USA. Please dont worry about the quality, because our clubs are made with the same technology and mould. A friend just bought some Calaway clubs ( not sure which model) from this site at a VERY good price which makes me think its a scam. Just take off whatever you want, and no need to wait until I receive the goods, just take off the money now, I trust you. Hope this helped someone. Organization : Citra Joe : I havent bought any from then yet, but since they stated it very matter of factly that they would pass inspection rather than just some canned response like they are OEM etc., I almost believe they might actually be genuine. Seller will not agree to pay for returns. FWIW, they promptly removed the clubs from site and sent me a thank you. The counterfeit Scotty Cameron grip on the bottom is totally different than the authentic. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. I fink the boss of both sites is a Mr Ping; they have named a golf club after him; send your money now. See that barge pole over in the corner of your room? I get my thrills in more conventional ways, but that is beside the point. They came in on Saturday (while I was out of town). Just looking for the best deals without getting ripped off. So buying online would be a good option if they not counterfeits. just wondering if anyone has purchased anything off the seller busibee11 on ebay he is located in the USA and has sold a lot of gear with great feedback, and he looks like a genuine seller, so just after any info thanks.