What happened is: Guards can recognize you even if you're wearing faction armor, so that's why Dawes goes hostile. This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions. Prim will throw you a party. Does being friends with the powder gangers got anything to do with any thing special or can i just kill em all n wipe them off the face of Vegas as i donot want 2 stuff up my 2nd play-through thanks If the player character gets to him before he stands up, he will talk to them. Form ID Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. The second person on your list should be Chet at the general store directly next to the Prospector Saloon. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Powder Gangers appear in Fallout: New Vegas. There is also the ability to recruit Victor to assist and this lightens the load further. If the dialogue option doesn't appear, ask to see his shop inventory first. Kill the suspicious merchant and return to Eddie, defending the prison. The first thing we need to come to an understanding of is what constitutes killing everyone? Valve Corporation. Speak with her, and you'll be able to engage her in conversation about the plight of Ringo, and taking on Joe Cobb and his gang. A number of cut and partially completed dialogue options exist which point towards the final portion of the quest having had additional options for helping out. Nash will provide the information for: Hayes will only tell the player character that military orders are classified, unless they already know - either by pickpocketing the "Military orders" off him, and/or by getting the information from Nash first. Only much later did I realize you can actually just talk to them. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. It will take precious little convincing to get Sunny involved, but as she says thereafter, you're still going to need more help. So, head back to Poseidon Energy (the gas station), where you'll find Ringo once more. Talking to him and asking how one can help out is all that is required to start this quest. After you speak with Trudy at the Prospector Saloon at the end of the side quest known as By a Campfire on the Trail, you'll learn a bit about a brewing conflict between someone named Ringo, and someone named Joe Cobb. Not a bug. Read that J. Sawyer himself didnt like how the karma system in FONW ended up. Lee may mention reporting back to Lt. Hayes after the quest has finished, but if My Kind of Town has already been completed, he will be gone from the NCR camp at Primm. The reward for Down in the Basement has been scaled down from 1500 caps to a more reasonable 500. still I couldn . Killing him or his crew after convincing him to move on also does not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers. The easiest way to do this is to kill Powder Gangers who can see through disguises (Dawes, Carter, Hannigan, bodyguards, etc), and stealthily kill all other Powder Gangers (Not necessary to kill Meyers). NCR Correctional Facility Let the melee weapon-wielding enemies come towards the cart and deal with them at close range. You'll need to have a Barter skill of 25 or higher to get him involved in the fight against Cobb and his men. Also, one can sneak behind the computer on his desk after the talk, back away to the wall, then stand up and walk away. Had a eureka of my own =). You made your choice when you got into the middle of a fight that wasn't your business. Though Powder Gangers almost all have Evil Karma, the larger Powder Ganger faction is not marked as Evil. There are several ways to go about this. That crummy karma system sure annoyed the bejeesus outta me, so folks had a sense for what to prepare for in this incarnation of a Gamebryo Fallout release. The smaller groups of Powder Gangers are all lead by a strong or cunning underboss, like Joe Cobb. New weapons with unique textures (as of v1.5)! Next up on your list should be Easy Pete, who you'll either find within the Prospector Saloon, walking around outside nearby, or more likely, sitting in his usual chair outside the front entrance to the bar. The situation worsened when the Powder Gangers stole Sloan's dynamite supply, shutting down Quarry Junction and inadvertently unleashing deathclaws on the quarry and the highway. Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. They carry single shotguns, 9mm pistols, varmint rifles and .357 Magnum revolvers. If everyones gonna die, theres no reason to talk to anyone. That's just the nature of Fallout: New Vegas (even more-so than Fallout 3's system). Note ownerships fixed (credit to TwilightKhan and MagnuMspec), Added behavior packages to Krieger in North Vegas, Polished NPC patrol packages and spawn scripts, Edited Finale NPC factions to reduce instances of friendly fire, Boulder Beach popups should only trigger once now upon completion of the relevant skill checks. This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. If he becomes hostile when approached after his guards are dead, try running quickly at him and repeatedly trying to talk. Interior is now smaller without anything of worth being lost. Commenting on the differences between the Fallout: New Vegas Powder Gangers and the 215 Rail Line Powder Gang, Joshua Sawyer stated that the Van Buren faction had much more developed characters and were to play a larger role, while in Fallout: New Vegas, their focus in the game was greatly diminished.[17]. after he is dealt with, return to Eddie and let him know Chavez is handled to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. He won't just give it away to you, however. There's no way around that. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Killing all of Eddie's guards stealthily may allow one to get to Eddie and initiate dialogue without hostilities, as a workaround for the above issue. [8][9], There are several groups of loosely organized Powder Gangers that organized quickly after the prison break. Kids are like members of my discord server, theyre now allowed to die and Yes Man respawns infinitely. Report back to Eddie with information on the NCR's planned attack. The new texture was provided by usernamegottaken.Vanilla NPC's voiced using a combination of NVVASynth and spliced lines retrieved using Lazy Voice Finder.The community, for its modding tutorials.My wonderfully supportive partner, who is the most dedicated alpha tester I'll ever know. Quest chain Unfortunately, getting her involved in this fray is going to require a bit of convincing, just as Sunny promised it would. Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod. Once information has been acquired, one can either report back to Eddie or betray him to Lt. Hayes, and help the NCR take back the prison. Just to give some context, this is a spoiler so mute for the next 4 seconds if you care. Organizations Vault 19 Powder GangNCRCF Powder GangJoe Cobb's GangChavez's GangPrimm escaped convicts Well, you're probably stuck, unless you use console commands to reset their reputation (and even that might not work; conversation flags might be handled separately). Personally I didn't know that there was any other option but to kill them all when I first played the game, I kept thinking "damn this is a hard mission for being so early in the game" as I had to use all of my ammo and dynamites to get them down. Indeed, you'll need at least a 25 Explosives rating to convince him you're worthy of his explosives, so if you don't have that, then don't expect to get the goods. Once you're inside, you'll find Sunny and her dog Cheyenne right off the bat. It's fun Fallout Shelter don't have any votes lulz. Also reduced number of hostile raiders in the finale by 25%. Seriously recommended. Fallout New Vegas has a command console that can be accessed with the backquote/tilde key (the `/~ key), which will trigger a command input menu to appear on your screen. Share. About this mod. Philip LemJoe CobbChavez Version 1.0. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. [3][5] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel were present at the site, killed the warden and established their own rule. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. I took that one because the strength will help with weapon handing. He's a businessman at heart, fair but stern, and getting him to help with his supplies is going to be difficult. Talking to him and asking how one can help out is all that is required to start this quest. The bodyguard next to the merchant and every guard in the admin building recognises you, so you cannot shop or do the quests for them. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. This quest is given by Eddie at the NCR Correctional Facility in the administration building. The bounty hunter may attack even after he is convinced to leave, even if one is not dressed as a Powder Ganger. One may need to remove and then put the Powder Gangers faction armor back on to reset rep back to neutral, and also wait around until they no longer sense the player character, so they no longer appear as hostile. Head back over to the Prospector Saloon. Eddie Overview You'll need a Speech or Sneak skill of 25 in order to convince her, or you she simply won't get involved in this battle. In particular, a number of incomplete topics would have allowed the Courier to offer suggestions as to how Eddie could better defend the facility, including posting more guards and placing snipers on the guard towers. Probably has something to do with the game being shipped after less than 2 years in production lol. The following list tells you their locations. The Powder Gangers were essentially the Season 1 bad guys of a TV show before the real, big baddies show up. The Mad Minotaur can now only be spawned during his quest. Reworked scripting for Mojave Prison Blues so that it no longer directly edits I Fought The Law. The Courier was also being given the option to free Chavez from the prison. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4GfoqI2-0Can You Beat Fallout 4 Without A Pip-Boy? Well, if they want rampage, I will give it to them! Those brave or foolish to remain were killed or crucified by the merciless Legionaries. Update for the boys, this is a more accurate way to fix it using console command: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Valve Corporation. One named Powder Ganger may remain in one of the cell blocks, (a sneak kill if one wants to keep their rep intact). I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. I Fought the Law A couple of them have nothing more than melee weapons, and will thus rush your position from the outset of the battle. After the Vault 19 Powder Gang surrendered to the NCR, they were re-incorporated into the correctional system. Thats basically it. Didnt do that, I fixed it with another mod so I got a perk every time I leveled up. Between Ringo, Sunny and yourself, you should be just fine getting through this fiasco. New, unique textures have been added for all unique weapons in the mod! Wielded by Silva himself. In case someone will still read this, I have found the solution for the Powder Ganngers, and how to make them neutral even after them becoming Vilified. I took Goodsprings side against the Powder Gangers, and now I want to help the NCR take back the prison but apparently you need to help the Powder Gangers in order to unlock. Otherwise, you'll be left to use your own Caps to purchase whatever you need. Talk to Eddie and ask if he has any work. 0008D0E3. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. Released Mod. I had this problem but didn't do the quest. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. Eddie's Emissary : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TzSmz3BokECan You Beat Fallout 4 With Only A Commie Whacker? I've replayed NV multiple times and never knew the Powder Gangers had quests. Better yet, if your Medicine skill is at least a 25, you can do some further convincing to acquire a couple of Doctor's Bags as well. Once the merchant has been dealt with, report back to Eddie to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. DETAILS. Well in that case you have to read yourself into the world of console commands. He will say that the NCR is already here, and tell the player character to feel free to kill some of them on the way out. (Hopefully) Made it so Carter and Hannigan despawn from NCRCF appropriately if recruited into Dufresne's gang. He is seriously one of the most underrated modders of Bethesda games and I use his mods every playthrough. It's also not consistent -- sometimes killing guys will unmark their property as owned, sometimes not. [7] Eventually, the gangers established a sizable presence outside the prison, with a ring of camps around it, focused on raiding caravans that tried to push through to Vegas and launch attacks to terrorize the local towns of Goodsprings, Sloan and Primm. Due to their hostility, the Powder Gangers have little to no friendly relations with outside groups. Form ID Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/, https://fallout-archive.fandom.com/wiki/JSawyer, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59470/, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66016, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38897, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34994, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37546, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34784, (https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50810). MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. It wont in the long run. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYakRU58_cCan You Beat Honest Hearts Without Taking Any Damage? I Fought the Law is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. Obviously, VATS will be a huge help here, but if you're out of action points, you'll need to resort to some old-fashioned first-person action to get the job done. But even if you failed at convincing everyone that you need their help, that's okay. Convince Philip Lem or Samuel Cooke to ally with the Great Khans. However, you and he can't deal with it alone. Appearances So, if this was gonna take a long time, I might as well install a few mods to make it more interesting. And Bruiser adds 2 points to Strength while reducing melee attack speed by 20%. Press J to jump to the feed. Fixes some blood decals, (hopefully) corrects a progression bug regarding Quarry Junction, edits NPC packages in the Westside base, and adds a new unique helmet to the Mad Minotaur. 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Once the player has killed all the fire geckos, go back to Samuel Cooke to receive some Powder Ganger fame and caps. 20. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Fallout: New Vegas Run Goodspring Run - Fallout: New Vegas Guide with maps and videos. The Prospector's Den quest marker updates after talking to Ian. Killing Eddie prior to that point will create a mission failure. The guns you hear going off all around you are the other Powder Gangers, armed with an assortment of firearms. The NCR, battered by the loss of the Dam, were unable to devote any troops to retaking the Correctional Facility from the Powder Gangers. It's likely that Sunny will take cover near you. As soon as one exits the building, the assault will begin, and NCR troopers pour into the facility and attack. But there is something weird here. 1K. [4][1], The revolt shut down Highway 93 and the NCR's main road to Vegas. (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. - Revamped Battle At the end of I fought the law. Kinda RNG based though apparently. That pressing issue, of course, is taking on Cobb and his friends. Close . However, they also have a large arsenal of guns; some stolen, others looted from dead NCRCF guards. Technical Can I wipeout Boomers and powder gangers from Mojave by nuke?I did Yes man and killed almost every faction like khans,Nuked NCR and legion,killed brotherhood of steel. All rights reserved. They are exceptional enemies to the Courier during the first part of the game, unless the player chooses to . I mean, I was making stuff with console. She'll give you three optional tasks to try to get some other people involved. Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. This game was very rushed and karma was just one of the things they didn't get to implement or cut. Doing so ends the mod questline early and is mostly included for RP purposes. Job letters in HQ disable after their relevant quest is finished. I think you can still help Boxcars, too. The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. New unique missile launcher: Expedita. Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. Every name on the 17 page pamphlet has to be crossed out for the challenge to be a success.My stats were based around being an effective killing machine. Fallout: New Vegas faction Many remain in the prison and have been raiding surrounding areas under the leadership of Eddie. Theres the kill literally every single thing that exists route. Just speaking with him and letting him know what you're about to be up against will net you several Stimpaks. Can You Beat Fallout New Vegas By Killing Everyone?Mitten Squad Discord link: http://www.Mitten.Land/#MittensMojaveMassacreCheck out some of my other videos if you liked this one:Can You Beat Bioshock With Only A Wrench? Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? This quest is given by Eddie at the NCR Correctional Facility in the administration building. If the player character reports back to Eddie, he will reward them with 1 Buffout, 1 Psycho, 1 Mentats, 100 caps, and 200 XP. Locations I got some Ganger armour, killed the guy at the door and then left. The 215 Rail Line Powder Gang were also due to appear in Black Isle's canceled Van Buren. Thanks for the quick response. When you're done at Doc Mitchell's house, you can visit Victor at his shack and get some extra fire power added to the fight for minor effort. Ramirez and Timbo have had their volume boosted. It is possible to talk to Eddie without a Stealth Boy, even if one is vilified by the Powder Gangers. Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility. This quest is a reference to the song of the same name by Sonny Curtis & the Crickets, more famously covered by the Bobby Fuller Four in 1965. This means that stealing items owned by the Powder Gangers faction will incur negative Karma. Included hotfix to prevent crashes in Camp McCarran Concourse under specific circumstances. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background - More Troopers and more powder gangers at the NCRCF. The slightly longer answer would be that you obviously can't do any quests given by the Powder Gangers now. Finally, one will be asked to find out about the NCR's plans for the prison. Though I kill everyone of them save for Boxcars(felt bad for him). Just had the same issue having _Idolized_ reputation with Powder Gangers. It appears that Ringo and Joe are going to come to blows soon, and obviously, you're going to be able to get involved. (3) (Optional) Speak with Doc Mitchell, Chet, Trudy and Easy Pete about acquiring their help. Could just install the Spy Perk mod by VampireMonkey as that lets you pose as a legitimate member of any Faction with 30 Sneak, Level 4 and Faction Armor. Technical Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Easy Pete, if he's in the area, will get involved in the fight, and obviously the man responsible for all of this, Ringo, will also help out. There will be cake. Waited a bit and went back and everything was fine. Reduced Powder Ganger NPC count in North Vegas and Westside. Several lines that were meant to fire once but didn't have been patched. You should speak to Trudy here at the bar, as well the general store owner, Chet, and Easy Pete (as you'll need his dynamite). I Fought the Law is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas. Leaders Not the most immersive, but you get used to it. Updated several NPC Packages and Scripts to improve performance. [1], However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River against the warden's objections. (reference begins at 8:29:51), This page is about the Powders Gangers faction. Indeed, you'll first need to recruit some help. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GamZYQwvACan You Beat Skyrim With Only A Fork? One will gain Powder Gangers fame +12. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. If you have anything at your disposal from anyone else, now's the time to use all of those goods. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. Ultimately I think you are just forced to wipe them out yourself and not have the radio acknowledge it, or maybe mess around in console with the quest stages to set the quest to the stage where you raid it with NCR, but i dont know how that'll play out. All rights reserved. 3.Only fight deathclaws if you are level 15 or higher 4.if your idolized in freeside your hated : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVBrUXGpWkCan You Beat Fallout 3 as a Baby? All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. After stepping out into the darkness, I made a decision, kind of a big one. Fallout: New Vegas Divisions Removed a good amount of unused space in the Westside headquarters. We'll leave the gas station posthaste to do so now, but first, be sure to grab the Boxing Times Magazine from the shelf in the gas station en route. Becuase you're technically stealing from the NCR. VMS02 One can also try to sneak behind the computer on his desk and back away. So, suit yourself. This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions, This author has not credited anyone else in this file, This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. Just kill everyone, the Powder Gangers aren't really important. Valve Corporation. Added lines to Ramirez during Mojave Prison Blues to tell him of Eddie's death. Geez, I thought there was something wrong with my installation, or a mod conflict somewhere. [citation needed], The group engaged in commerce with establishments in Nipton. The quest log and marker should now update on acquiring the Viper Mine stash. Offers a reason for non-evil characters to begin "I Fought The Law". Added lip sync to some lines missing it. I was not successful that way when I tried to get my infamy deleted with the PG, they still were hostile then. All rights reserved. Casting Call Voice ActorsCDO947214: Ellis Dufresne, Mole Rat Richard, The Mad MinotaurCellBlockPsycho: Ramirez, Greavessamlikesva: TNT TimboTenwise: Whitmeyer, Ian, Krieger, LyleJudah K: Chuy, Floyd, Field Commander 1 & 2, Med Officer Kristoffiamriverrose: Eyeteeth, Rosettarosewaterwinter: Officer Nguyen, Doc RosalindOther CreditsExploding spear mesh used with permission from Ranaark's Thundersticks.Big Earner switchblade uses a modified texture from AgeofEvolutionHQ.The code used to free crucified Powder Gangers was based off of void_gazer's Decrucifixion.The Steakmaker shotgun's concept and original texture used with permission from furrden2. Added a missing audio line for Hannigan. Editor ID : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMrlNpx319ATwitter: https://twitter.com/mittensquadCan You Beat Fallout: New Vegas By Killing Everyone? Armed with a wide array of improvised explosives and stolen weapons, the Vault 19 Powder Gang tormented the Mojave Wasteland for years. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. 102. alfiepople007 1 day ago. Upon speaking with him, you can get down to business, pressing him on acquiring some of his dynamite. I'm somewhat relieved that isn't the case. Marked several NPC corpses as Quest Items, preventing them from despawning on cell reset. However, if the player character uses the above method, all the NCR troopers inside the administration center will be hostile to them from that point on (even days or weeks later) if they ever enter the area without an NCR faction disguise equipped. This provided an opportunity that the inmates seized to stage a prison break. But more importantly, none of them matter. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. That's NCR Correctional Facility. Discount medical supplies are now added to Chet upon taking the relevant quest, preventing conflicts with mods that edit his inventory. Have you ever wanted to be a stylish convicted felon in a post apocalyptic wasteland? You kids arent gonna know what Im talking about, but I printed out a list of every named NPC in New Vegas onto paper and stapled it into a bundle of paper thatd been stapled together by someone with a stapler. Why do I lose Karma by stealing from Powder Gangers? Reputation image from Fallout: New Vegas. Added Wild Wasteland sound to WW triggers. Patched initial quest to prevent accidental lockout, and fixed its check only working if the player had exactly one leather armor. He is the man sitting behind the desk on the second floor, surrounded by guards. If one wants to help the Powder Gangers or sit back and let the. Not the most immersive, but you get used to it. [12] The Vault 19 group plan to join the Great Khans, at the behest of their leader, Samuel Cooke, indicating some level of respect is held for the Khans.[13][14][15]. 9 Intelligence for points when leveling up, Luck for critical shots and the casino if necessary, charisma is a dump, speech is for nerds, and the rest are spread out evenly. I am wondering if this is a bug or if its something normal. FALLOUT NEW VEGAS My tips It may not be the best 1.Make sure you listen to what everybody has to say 2.Only take stuff from bodies that you need!