Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Everyone else says so but I figured Id ask. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Hey Jim, superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. Question. $699.00. Im at a point that I can spend $1500+ for a hunting rifle. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. I rarely hear manufacturing quality concerns about Weatherby rifles. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. My experience as well Tim! under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. My arms are a bit short and most hunting rifles are just too long for me, length of pull wise. Love your reviews. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. Thanks, I enjoy watching you on YouTube and its really nice to see your reviews before purchasing guns and related stuff. Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. I have Burris rings for a Tikka T3 base which are basically the same as the Zee rings. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! GSG, I always just hunted. a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. Hi I have been looking at the savage 110 ultralite 6.5 creedmoor. Both good guns, I would worry about Franchi suddenly stopping production of this rifle and parts availability going to zero. Ive been looking at the varment line in a 6.5 cm. Keep up the great work. What are your thought on the Ruger precision? Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. I saw you also mentioned something coming at Shotshow but did not see if you talked about this yet. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. Removing the bolt, however, is easier thanks to a release lever located on the side of the action. I really like the stock design. The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. Looks great. Do you have any experience with the Franchi? Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Ive narrowed it down to a Sig Cross in 6.5, a JTAC Screech Owl in 6.5 22 barrel. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. Any help deciding? Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. Thank you for your time. Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. And the thought of upgrades on a new rifle seems stupid to me. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. Its a good quality scope for shooting out to 300 yards but doesnt have adjustable turrets so if youll want to do some long-distance shooting, order it without a scope. stock not sticky yet? Then you can go pick up in your local store in just a couple days and do the government paperwork and walk away with it. I know I have expediencies it. Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. All things equal LOL. High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. My 6.5 CM shoots sub MOA groups. I agree! Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned Synthetic as in black plastic, to be clear, not as in carbon fiber or some other fancy stuff. I like the action of the Howa better but the Proof barrel on the Savage. Its a good option for light cartridges, but the light weight and stock design dont make for a good match on heavy cartridges. Thanks for doing great work. Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator Its incredibly well built. Barrett, AI, etc. some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. I expect to spend a few thousand or more to get what would meet my needs. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. There really isnt much to complain about on a Bergara B-14. Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Twist Rate: 1:11 Looking past your racism when you buy once and buy quality you never cry about it, your just damn glad you made the right decision because often a lost opportunity is just that, it never comes again in life. Thanks. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. Looking at a Seekins Havak in 300 PRC. I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. Even on safe, the bolt can be manipulated to chamber or eject a round. Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Do you think this is normal business practice ? Wow, what a shooter! A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. $1,299.00. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. How may races are there and is idiot one? A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. Or even at a much higher price range. Glad that rifle is a shooter. Push it flush with the inside of the trigger guard, and . It is very expensive. Its a well designed stock, but the fit and finish feels cheesyespecially the checkering pattern they use. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. Frankly, I just dont see the value in the Werkman. I have the 2020 waypoint. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. Hes not huge. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. Ha! I loved the way it shot and felt. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. American Hunter's first reports of it indicated excellent fit and function and accuracy. Actually, I like it a lot. Theres something cool coming. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Overall * * * * Next. Yes and yes. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Man I really love your reviews! As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. We hunt in northern Utah. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. With the Sako 85 you get better wood and more metal, but I would rather buy a Tikka T3. Holy Moses, what an incredible rifle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. It has become one of my favorite guns. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. Or, even better if your choice cost less. I have narrowed my next purchase down to those two. Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. and the weathermark? It would also handle bigger calibers MUCH better than the Cross. Seems like a solid gun for the money and straight pull seems fun. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. Any thoughts? Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. Ergonomics * * * * Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Is the quality that good? If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. Hello Jim. Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. 80lbs maybe. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) Gun #: 999725884. One thing I always know I need in any rifle, hunting or range, is accuracy. Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Beater rifles go until they cant. Jim great reviews. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? I really like the Springfield waypoint but it is out of my price range but definitely the nicest rifle Ive held! Thanks for such a speedy response. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. But its a great all around gun out to 450 when most hunters can only shoot 250, if that. I went ahead and ordered a scope today, I had a leupold vx5 3x15 and sent it back, and today I ordered a Burris Signature HD 3x15, so I will see how they compare. I used to hunt as a kid. It is a three lug 60 deg. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. Hello I love your videos and your reviews the only comment I have is that the savage 110 ultralite does not have the accustock. Pls recommend as I need a rifle under 1500 $ including Scope for shooting upto 600 Yards with cheaper ammo to practice more. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Keep up the great work. Would this interest you? I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. Shot yesterday and shot at 200, 300 and 400 yards, 1/2-3/4 MOA. Cries racism when pointed out that is an idiot. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead.