Willow was well along the path to spell casting before she met Tara. > > > Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?> > >> > > Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. [11] Nineteen days later, Lindsey makes a trip to the crater where Sunnydale once stood and digs Spike's amulet out of the Hellmouth. Shesaid the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out oftheir hats at the last minute. Although it seemed that he and Angel had buried the hatchet, Lindsey was unable to cope with the fact that the Senior Partners gave Angel everything that Lindsey had worked so hard for. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. I have always imagined that Maggie treats people like grown-ups. She's probably a mix of those two. Apr 21, 2022. [13], Lindsey then initiated the next stage of his plan, making Spike corporeal again through a package sent to Spike at Wolfram & Hart. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. Meanwhile, he infiltrated Wolfram & Hart. When informed by Eve that Spike had failed, Lindsey activated the Senior Partners' program meant to kill Angel if he turned against them. Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. The fleur-de-lis bracelet that Lindsey wears throughout his time on the show is actually a bracelet that Christian Kane wears to remind him of his mother who is from New Orleans. (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a Usenet posting)-- ************************************************************************ Keith F. Goodnight, Anime Fan |"Pacifism only works ** Keeper of Annapuma's Script Crypt |if everybody feels the ** http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same." If this or other postsmade through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email [email protected]. Express. Nike and Pregnancy: Your Questions, Answered. She is also a Grammy Award nominee. Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy.Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their . I remember one early episode where Walsh was shown watching Buffy and Riley in bed together, and thought at the time that, if she were somehow sexually obsessed with Riley, she might have used Initiative resources, including other chipped demons and vampires, to take Buffy out of the picture, probably beginning when she sent Buffy out alone with the defective weapon against the demon. The actor left to go shoot the movie Knockaround Guys and by the time he was able to return, the show had already changed so radically that there wasn't a place for him anymore. You do realize that Wolf Lake has nothing to do with Buffy, don't you? She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of, > > their hats at the last minute. Certainly Tara's role would have been quite different,> > or maybe there wouldn't have been a Tara at all. For more information, please see our Eliza Dushku, who played the rogue slayer Faith Lehane, was not represented at all. [citationneeded], However, Cordelia's seemingly returning to life was a risk Lindsey's plans. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a taser by a then unknown assailant? I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. ", "North Shore Film Festival wraps up on May 8 and 9. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing hasnever been established. A person I would really like to know!". Lorne remarked he had heard him sing and shot Lindsey twice in the chest with a silenced pistol. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. You are using an out of date browser. [sic]. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. Cordy (Charisma Carpenter) was introduced in the first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.She was a teen drama archetype: the hot, rich, mean girl with a slew of sycophantic followers . "It was obviously a great thing to be a part of. > >> > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. She did my head in so im glad that she didnt keep going. This allowed her to commit murder and get away due to her supposed disability. [citationneeded], Lindsey responded by changing into his casual clothes, getting into his truck and by brutally beating Angel with it and a sledgehammer, demanding to know what happened with Darla. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head orsomething > > > That might have been the net result, but you would have to admit the> road travel to get to that point would have been much different. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. Riley later. I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. "It's always hard to be directed by someone who's close to you," Crouse says. Lindsey then discovered that Darla had slept with Angel. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. She> said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> their hats at the last minute. They were clearly playing with the Frankenstein myth, where the monster takes a life of its own, ponders the meaning of its existence and wants to create other monsters to keep it company. She doesn't have the time for it. Personally I thinkASH's departure this season was even more devastating. Older ones could control rodents7. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . Buffy The Vampire Slayer is a classic supernatural series which has returned to All 4. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. Apparently Adam wasoriginally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted outof her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". Kane has described the character as being driven by cynicism and ambition: "I still think this cat looks at the glass as being half empty. Perhaps with the intention of using them as police or even soldiers. You never will be.Lorne to Lindsey, Unlike most of Wolfram & Hart's other employees, Lindsey was not entirely devoid of a moral conscience. That she doesn't want to live in a world of babies. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Among them was the donor of Lindsey's hand, an old friend of his from his mailroom days. [7], Due to his and Lilah's achievements, they were congratulated at Holland's wine tasting party where Darla and Drusilla came and massacred everyone there, save for Lindsey and Lilah, as payback for being used as pawns. the > exact opposite of this paragraph.> > Does anybody have definitive info?> > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a > Usenet posting). "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. Returning to his apartment, Lindsey found that Darla had left town, taking all her clothes with her. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. His intent was for Willow to be Season Six's Big Badand whoever her love was at the time would have to be sacrificed to push herover the edge. --Help control the idiot population. However as his character grew in complexity, they started to appreciate his role in the series and said they were sad to see him leave. The Big Bang Theory finale: Who did Sarah Michelle Gellar play? Buffy defeats the demons and appears on the monitors after Walsh has prematurely announced Buffy's death to Riley, who walks out. [1], He then aided in the resurrection of Angel's old lover, Darla by taking over chanting during the ritual to bring her back when the demon Vocah; who was originally performing the ritual; was distracted when Angel attacked him. If he was making silverbullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IStrue, then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly andvery messily dead. If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the bedroom floor in "Seeing Red". . You must log in or register to reply here. --Doctor Who ************************************************************************, I wonder. Used automotive wheel weights make great inexpensive bullets forplinking, and I can control how heavy a powder charge I want as well. This is something that has always been interesting to me everytime I watch season 4. [16], Lindsey was incarcerated in a Holding Dimension that emulated suburbia, complete with a wife and a son. It was an experiment that the Government wanted to test was possible or not, and they put Maggie in charge. ", Fans continue to admire the actor and his role, with one commenting: "Marc seems to be one of the most intelligent and down to earth actors with an ego in its proper place. [19], You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. Actually, it could be even simpler than that - I reload and cast my ownbullets for certain calibers because it's a whole lot cheaper than factoryammo. Dressed in his casual attire, Lindsey left Los Angeles and went on a soul-searching trip, including, amongst other places, Nepal. Also, a rather different story since the focuswould have been on that personal aspect as well as thepolitical/military one. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. Although if you bring up Jenny Calendar I'm still bitter aboutthem killing her off! ", Another fan said: "Always loved Riley (re-watching Buffy just now) and it turns out the actor is as sincere and lovable as the character he played. Angel tried to catch her out by attacking her, thus forcing her to defend herself beyond the abilities of an average person in front of a court hearing with Lindsey as her defendant. However, he did return for an episode in the sixth season, where he returned and revealed he had married someone else. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Lindsay Crouse is an actress who portrayed Maggie Walsh on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer television series. [citationneeded], Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy. It is a series with humble beginnings (the movie, starring Kristy Swanson, was a minor cult . It's very dramatic poetry in that way. Everybody."[8]. The series stars Sarah Michelle Gellar as the title character, and she ended up forming a relationship with . After reading an intriguiging book about vampire legends, it seems to me (the book didn't draw this conclusion, it's my own stab in the hear-- er, dark) that pretty much the entire modern picture of the vampire as played in Hollywood and Gothic fiction comes from Bram Stoker's "Dracula", and Stoker actually made up most of it on his own. [2], Lorne set him and Angel on the path that would end with the two working together to discover a Wolfram & Hart facility that specialized in unwilling transplant donors. ""Are you kidding? It wasn't a big deal to lose Lindsay Crouse a whole 9episodes earlier than planned. No doubt Joss Whedon would have determined an appropriate and yet senseless way to slay Willow's significant other. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? Time operated in a loop; each day, after waking up and sharing a normal day with his "family," he had his heart cut out by a The Wrath, a demon in the house's basement. 2. Not that I want to see Oz shot or anythingbutit would have had more impact. Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, [email protected] wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. [15] Although the "mind numbing" visions that Lindsey reported were non-existent, the events described were real. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. Crouse's brother is Timothy Crouse, author of The Boys on the Bus about political journalism during the 1972 presidential campaign. "[1], In a gender studies text, Jowett includes a section on the character, and argues the character is "masculinized by her roles as professor, scientist and leader. Buffy The Vampire Slayer airs on ALL4 and Prime Video. This is the first time I've ever heard this. [14], Lindsey later sought out Spike under the assumed identity of a drifter named Doyle, closely paralleling the initial encounters between Angel and the real Doyle. "[10] In 2007, Crouse opened a revival of The Belle of Amherst, a one-woman show about the life of poet Emily Dickinson, at the Gloucester Stage in Gloucester, Massachusetts. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Sarah Michelle Gellar. Yes, such specifics will certainly be written around the characters and their natures and would differ, but there's no real reason the broad flow of the story would have had to be different. > > > > This is the first time I've ever heard this. Smart guy! But to be honest, i think her story played out the way it should have been. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. You don't think she's just pining for the fjords? I've been expecting Tara to leave orbe off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLYgoneright?